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October 06, 2010

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Zyme

Sarrazin's event in Munich was quite a success for him. Not so much for his opponents on the stage, who had to face the accumulated discontent of the audience with the political class:

http://www.sueddeutsche.de/muenchen/muenchen/politik/sarrazin-wirbel-um-auftritt-in-muenchen-therapeut-und-brandstifter-1.1006734


I think this is Sarrazin's most important achievement. So many people now get the idea that their ideas are far from isolated. Instead they realize that the political class itself maintains an isolated stance. Now all it takes is organization and the political class is bound to change considerably.

David

Glad you got your money's worth, Zyme. Sarrazin has a brilliant business model: the poor, persecuted millionaire.

hattie

It's awful the way everyone picks on the rich.

Zyme

The fact that he is a poor persecuted millionaire shows exactly how far the political class and the people are apart these days:

While the political class caused him to lose his job and is about to kick him out of his party, the people are more than happy to fill his coffers with millions of Euros.

But the latter has nothing to do with the former. Or would you prefer the political class also being able to strip him of his property, to complete the arsenal of persecution?

Where does persecution begin in your point of view? Is public whipping necessary?

David

I'm curious about this mysterious "political class". Who are they? Where did they come from? ACtually, they were voted in by "the people". So, if you are unhappy with them, "throw the bums out" - as we like to say here.

Zyme

Ah right we simply have to throw those parties out who make our laws. And control 16 secret services for the protection of the constitution on a state level plus a federal one. And control our public television. And have a significant stake in quite a number of private media, too.

Yeah, this is all we got to do. Come to think of it, why do the Italians never get rid of Berlusconi? Or why is it that the US are governed by two parties for centuries now? I get it, because once the people are discontent with them, they simply throw the bums out!

David

So what are you going to do about it besides commenting on blogs and enriching Thilo Sarrazin? It seems to me that the new social media technologies provide a great opportunity to circumvent the state-owned media and influence public opinion as well as organizing politically.

Look into the "Netroots" phenomenon in the US ( I am writing a paper on this).

Zyme

You are right, this netroots movement certainly has significant potential in America to permanently change the diversification of public power.

For reasons that need further assessment this does not apply to Europe in general and Germany in particular.

Is it that online-movements are still associated with a lack of seriousness here?
To be honest, this is the only possible reason which comes to my mind spontaneously.

While people use the Internet for shopping purposes, watching movies, gaming, reading news just like our American counterparts, it is practically a politics-free zone. Why?

Come to think of it, it might have something to do with the extreme discontent with politics especially among those generations who are more active online (below age of 50).

Brandon

What do you think of this?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/17/angela-merkel-germany-immigration-multicultural-society_n_765696.html

David

Very unfortunate, since up to now she was able to resist the populist sentiments.

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