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October 19, 2011

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Hattie

I am very glad that this has appeared in FAZ.

Zyme

"As an American, I am profoundly ashamed and embarassed that the United States provided the intellectual foundation and models for the Ideology of Hate that has become hallmark of the German Right"

Ah come on, we have been here before. Or would "Ideology of Hate" not fit to the European Right in the 1920s?

Sorry to say so David, but it might not actually be so "American" as to how the German Right develops.
It might simply cease to be what it was from the 1960s on for several decades and return to where it always was beforehand.

Strahler 70

.Zyme, in general you are right, but it also can't be denied that 9/11 gave the political US-blogosphere a big boost, the right wing blogs in first place. While direct partnership with German blogs was rare, their influence was great. Stefan Herre's PI blog startet as a crude pro-Bush blog and, along with other 'pro American' bloggers got a jump start through David's Medienkritik, which itself was massivly pushed by Instapundit. And of course the political daily agenda in these days was dominated by the two theatres of war, on terrorism and on Iraq. Quickly privately run (!) right wing political blogs became tools of war propaganda, we got a picture of the mean, primitive and dirty enemy, at least within some limits, hate speech was and until now is accepted. If you make war propaganda, this is exacty what you want.

Would there have been a popular blog like PI without the impact of 9/11 on American rightwing war bloggers? Would we have a huge NPD blog instead, probably based in the US? Interesting nonsense, right? Fact is: The biggest German blog of the extreme right is based in the USA. And the second biggest and all the rest of the racist blogs, too.

All this will certainly not "return to where it always was beforehand". Thank's for nothing.

David

@Strahler,

It is misleading to say that "the biggest German blog of the extreme right is based in the USA". True, the Web site is hosted on servers located in the US, but the hosting providers have nothing to do with the content. We have protection of free speech, as as much as I hate sites such as PI as long as they do not violate US laws they can publish whatever they like on their Web sites.

Strahler 70

It wasn't misleading. It was ignoring that crude argument of 'free speech'. I don't accept this excuse for what is done in its name.
It is a threat for foreign nations and societies. It is an aggression. Stop it! Free speech? That's like free take and like free shoot.

But, I'm afraid, this is one of your minor problems. :D

David

@Zyme -

I would be interested in your thoughts as to why this populist anger you identify in Germany has not translated into votes. The "Freedom Party" and "Pro"-groups are a joke.

Is it the absence of a galvanizing figure like Geert Wilders?

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