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November 01, 2014

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Zyme

Luckily with the AFD the anti-American sentiment moves from the extremist part into the center of the populace.

I would say the biggest amount of SPD and Green party voters have always been against the USA far more than their leadership (due to limited sovereignty in practice) anyway.

So when the AFD eats up what is left of the FDP and makes CDU/CSU voters think twice about the (non-)sense of US presence in Germany, the last cornerstone of US support in Germany might fall! Cheerful times ahead :-)

Zyme

And this is what everyone can read on Nato's wiki page:

'The first NATO Secretary General, Lord Ismay, stated in 1949 that the organization's goal was "to keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down."'


Does one need to know more on this organization?

David

Yes, good riddance to those f**cking Amis, who brought freedom and prosperity to Germany!

Zyme

At the two instances in the 20th century most crucial to Germany, America sided with our enemies.

Keeping this in mind, why do you think we ought to be grateful America helped rebuild their vassal after bombing it to ruins, to keep it from falling under its remaining foe's domain?
Do you REALLY believe this was an act of altruism? :-D

David

If I remember my high school history class, it was Germany that declared war on the United States in 1941.

And yes, I do believe there is much that Germany should be grateful to the US for (like the Berlin Air Lift).

Zyme

"If I remember my high school history class, it was Germany that declared war on the United States in 1941."

I was aware of this, which is why I wrote "sided with our enemies" well before the declaration:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease

This is all ancient history. Yet it still proves we should not put any trust in a relationship that turned friendly only in the very moment it started to suit American interests, while it was utterly hostile beforehand.

David wars were waged with millions dead, wars crucial to the future of entire Europe and beyond. Do you seriously want to put the Berlin Air Lift in the same league?

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